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Pastor Meng’en Li serves a church positioned in a southern town the place the processing trade is the principle trade. Church contributors have top mobility. In those years with the pandemic, Li has discovered courses on discipleship coaching, pastoring teams, and hybrid worship.
For discipleship coaching, Li has a tendency to coach extra full-time staff to be church ministers. His ideas modified on this strategy of serving migrant staff in factories for a few years. “In the beginning, I believed the church must educate extra full-time ministers, however later I believed it’s higher to coach extra full-time place of business contributors to be (part-time) church ministers.”
He defined that once a church is small, church leaders must inspire believers who’ve their very own activity to serve reasonably than asking them to be full-time ministers. “I’m hoping that believers can glorify God with their presents and of their place. If the church isn’t sufficiently big, I wish to inspire extra individuals who have their very own activity to serve.”
Li believes that the tithe of believers within the place of business can reinforce full-time ministers within the church. “Some individuals are talented in pastoral ministry, then we inspire them to go away their paintings and serve neatly; some individuals are talented in earning profits, then we inspire them to earn more money. On this approach, all other people get their praise from God.”
“If church pastors shepherd a bunch of people that most effective devour and move, then pastors will for sure be exhausted and in lack. The church must domesticate disciples, now not spiritual other people. For Jewish communities, 12 grownup males can determine a synagogue that may reinforce a full-time rabbi. In the similar approach, the church gained’t be too tough in finance.”
Li has additionally modified his thoughts about pastoring teams. He tended to ascertain a large church, however later he discovered the significance of small team ministry.
“Jesus mentioned, the place two or 3 come in combination in my title, there am I with them,” He mentioned, “church construction calls for extra small teams and team leaders. A circle of relatives has greater than two or 3 other people, and households must construct their circle of relatives altar and do circle of relatives provider neatly. In a circle of relatives the place each husband and spouse consider within the Lord, the husband must take the duty of training. On this approach, evangelism may also be performed successfully.”
Speaking about gatherings, Li concept on-line gatherings are wanted, however face-to-face gatherings can’t be overlooked. In those years with the pandemic, extra other people discovered the significance of the web. Li additionally discovered that, as a minister, he can’t forestall finding out. On this generation, ministers are required to learn how to use the web higher. “Unbelievers can do are living proclaims; ministers additionally must be told new era.”
On the other hand, he famous that church leaders must see the restrictions and disadvantages of on-line gatherings and take note of in-person gatherings.
“On account of the pandemic, maximum of gatherings went on-line, which must now not be the principle type of accumulating at some point. On-site accumulating continues to be vital for believers.”
He additionally shared his ideas on whether or not the sacrament of communion may also be celebrated on-line, his resolution is not any. “We nonetheless want to emphasize in-person accumulating. If we simply accumulate on-line, how we could have fun the sacrament of communion? On-line accumulating is a complement now not an alternative to on-site accumulating.”
“On-line gatherings can’t be restricted through area and is handy for immediate communique. However they’ve shortcomings too. Accumulating nearly creates a area with most effective pillars and no partitions. ” He defined his concept with an instance: lately, many heretics contacted believers thru church teams in on-line platforms, seeking to tempt and win over many believers.
He persevered, “If the church holds on-line gatherings most effective, believers would possibly pay attention to sermons from quite a lot of assets. Every so often believers depart the church abruptly, and pastors don’t the explanation. This is without doubt one of the nice drawbacks of on-line gatherings.”
“Up to now, the church didn’t hang on-line gatherings. When heretics got here to disturb believers within the church, pastors may just to find them and force them away. However now, the interference of heretics on the web is inevitable.” He mentioned of an actual case he encountered lately: “One believer right here listens randomly on the web and is at a loss for words through heresy to the purpose that he wishes lend a hand and intercession.”
“As well as, pastors can’t be lazy and overlook visiting believers and taking care of them one after the other as a result of on-line gatherings and on-line pastoring,” Li added,” if that is so, the end result could be believers will decline of their sense of belonging to the church and hearts of reverence to religion.”
“The effectiveness of on-line gatherings and pastoring stays unknown, and it’s other from having in-person gatherings. We must insist on in-person gatherings and the sacrament of communion.”
– Translated through Katherine Guo
一位在南方一城市常年服事职场教会的李蒙恩牧师处在一个加工业较多的城市,教会也面临着信徒流动性很大的情况. 在疫情发生后的这几年,他在门徒训练、小组化牧养以及实地+线上聚会的模式上积累了经验和一些新思考。( ==当summary)
一、鼓励和培养更多带职事奉的门徒
李蒙恩牧师在服事工厂打工群体上有多年的经历。在这个过程中,他的想法有很多的改变,“起初我们认为,教会应该培养更多全职事奉的工人才好,但是后面发现应该是培养很多带职的员工做教会的工人更好。”
他说到,当教会人数较少时,不是先强调全职同工而是鼓励职场的人带职服事。“我们希望弟兄姐妹能够跟着各自的恩赐在不同的位置上荣耀上帝。如果一个教会人数达不到一个程度的时候,我觉得可以鼓励更多人做带职事奉。
李牧师认为,带职的弟兄姐妹的十一奉献可以用来支持教会的全职事奉的工人。“有的人是在传牧上有恩赐的,我们就鼓励他放下赚钱的想法,好好事奉;有的人是有专业技能,那就鼓励他好好赚钱。这样在神面前,都有赏赐,都各得其所。”
 “如果教会牧者,只是牧养一群吃饼得饱的人,教会牧者肯定会疲惫并有供应短缺的问题出现。我们教会培养的是门徒,而不是宗教徒。比如说,对于犹太人的社群而言,12个成年男性可以成立一个会堂,成立一个会堂可以支持一个全职的拉比。我觉得这样教会的开支不会太难。”
二、关于重视教会小组化的管理模式
李牧师之前的想法是想把教会做大做强。但这几年来,他的想法改变很多,放下了这样的想法,而是开始看重小组化牧养的模式。
“耶稣说过,你们无论在哪里,只要有2-3个人奉我的名聚会,我就在他们中间。”他说到,“教会发展需要多多建立小组,同时也需多多要建立小组长。一个家庭不止2-3个人,一个家庭里面可以很好地建立家庭祭坛做好家庭礼拜,这些都是非常必要的。夫妻都信主的家庭,丈夫需要建立教导的责任。这样传福音的事工也能做得很好。”
三,网络聚会需要,但不可忽视实地聚会
疫情发生后,人们更加发现网络的重要性,李牧师也是在这个过程中发现作为传道人要不停止的学习,当下这个时代需要传道人更好得学习使用网络。“那些不信主的都用网络做直播带货,传道人自己本身也要学习。”
但是,他也表示,需要看到线上聚会的有限性和弊端,教会应该要重视实地聚会,特殊情况除外。
“我们现在因为疫情的缘故,大多数是做网络聚会,但是这个不应该成为日后聚会的主体形式,弟兄姐妹还是要做实地聚会的。”
他也谈到当前云圣餐引起的争论,他的看法还是认为圣餐需要实地。“我们还是要强调实地聚会,如果只是网络聚会,那么圣餐怎么办?网络聚会是实地聚会的辅助,而不能取代实地聚会。”
“网络聚会优势在于不受地理空间的限制,方便即时通讯。但缺点也很大,网络聚会就像只有柱子,没有围墙的房子。”他举例说,近期就有很多异端通过网络的平台找教会群私下加信徒,诱惑和拉拢很多弟兄姐妹。
“如果教会只是网络聚会,教会的信徒可能两边的讲道都去听,有的时候离他们突然离开了教会,教会牧者都不知道是什么原因,这就是网络聚会的很大的弊端之一。”
“以前没有网络,异端的人来实地搅扰了,牧者发现后把他们撵走,现在网络上的聚会异端的搅扰是防不胜防的。”他说到最近遇到的一个真实的案例:“我们这一个信徒在网络上胡乱听道,被异端混乱了,最后他需要被帮助和代祷。”
“另外,作为传道人,不能变得懒惰,不要觉得有了网络聚会和牧养,我就不用探访信徒,不用挨个去走访讲道。”李牧师继续提醒说:“这样下去,导致的问题是弟兄姐妹对教会的归属感和信仰的敬畏之心都会衰退。”
“网络聚会和牧养到底效果好不好,谁也不知道。它跟实体聚会还是有差异的。我们还是坚持要做实体聚会,坚持做圣餐礼。”
Pastor Meng’en Li serves a church positioned in a southern town the place the processing trade is the principle trade. Church contributors have top mobility. In those years with the pandemic, Li has discovered courses on discipleship coaching, pastoring teams, and hybrid worship.
For discipleship coaching, Li has a tendency to coach extra full-time staff to be church ministers. His ideas modified on this strategy of serving migrant staff in factories for a few years. “In the beginning, I believed the church must educate extra full-time ministers, however later I believed it’s higher to coach extra full-time place of business contributors to be (part-time) church ministers.”
He defined that once a church is small, church leaders must inspire believers who’ve their very own activity to serve reasonably than asking them to be full-time ministers. “I’m hoping that believers can glorify God with their presents and of their place. If the church isn’t sufficiently big, I wish to inspire extra individuals who have their very own activity to serve.”
Li believes that the tithe of believers within the place of business can reinforce full-time ministers within the church. “Some individuals are talented in pastoral ministry, then we inspire them to go away their paintings and serve neatly; some individuals are talented in earning profits, then we inspire them to earn more money. On this approach, all other people get their praise from God.”
“If church pastors shepherd a bunch of people that most effective devour and move, then pastors will for sure be exhausted and in lack. The church must domesticate disciples, now not spiritual other people. For Jewish communities, 12 grownup males can determine a synagogue that may reinforce a full-time rabbi. In the similar approach, the church gained’t be too tough in finance.”
Li has additionally modified his thoughts about pastoring teams. He tended to ascertain a large church, however later he discovered the significance of small team ministry.
“Jesus mentioned, the place two or 3 come in combination in my title, there am I with them,” He mentioned, “church construction calls for extra small teams and team leaders. A circle of relatives has greater than two or 3 other people, and households must construct their circle of relatives altar and do circle of relatives provider neatly. In a circle of relatives the place each husband and spouse consider within the Lord, the husband must take the duty of training. On this approach, evangelism may also be performed successfully.”
Speaking about gatherings, Li concept on-line gatherings are wanted, however face-to-face gatherings can’t be overlooked. In those years with the pandemic, extra other people discovered the significance of the web. Li additionally discovered that, as a minister, he can’t forestall finding out. On this generation, ministers are required to learn how to use the web higher. “Unbelievers can do are living proclaims; ministers additionally must be told new era.”
On the other hand, he famous that church leaders must see the restrictions and disadvantages of on-line gatherings and take note of in-person gatherings.
“On account of the pandemic, maximum of gatherings went on-line, which must now not be the principle type of accumulating at some point. On-site accumulating continues to be vital for believers.”
He additionally shared his ideas on whether or not the sacrament of communion may also be celebrated on-line, his resolution is not any. “We nonetheless want to emphasize in-person accumulating. If we simply accumulate on-line, how we could have fun the sacrament of communion? On-line accumulating is a complement now not an alternative to on-site accumulating.”
“On-line gatherings can’t be restricted through area and is handy for immediate communique. However they’ve shortcomings too. Accumulating nearly creates a area with most effective pillars and no partitions. ” He defined his concept with an instance: lately, many heretics contacted believers thru church teams in on-line platforms, seeking to tempt and win over many believers.
He persevered, “If the church holds on-line gatherings most effective, believers would possibly pay attention to sermons from quite a lot of assets. Every so often believers depart the church abruptly, and pastors don’t the explanation. This is without doubt one of the nice drawbacks of on-line gatherings.”
“Up to now, the church didn’t hang on-line gatherings. When heretics got here to disturb believers within the church, pastors may just to find them and force them away. However now, the interference of heretics on the web is inevitable.” He mentioned of an actual case he encountered lately: “One believer right here listens randomly on the web and is at a loss for words through heresy to the purpose that he wishes lend a hand and intercession.”
“As well as, pastors can’t be lazy and overlook visiting believers and taking care of them one after the other as a result of on-line gatherings and on-line pastoring,” Li added,” if that is so, the end result could be believers will decline of their sense of belonging to the church and hearts of reverence to religion.”
“The effectiveness of on-line gatherings and pastoring stays unknown, and it’s other from having in-person gatherings. We must insist on in-person gatherings and the sacrament of communion.”
– Translated through Katherine Guo
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GOD HAS A MASTER PLAN FOR SPIRITUAL GROWTH & DEVELOPMENT

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“Wherefore, laying apart all malice, and all guile and hypocrisies and envies and all evil talking, as new born babes, need the trustworthy milk of the phrase that ye might develop there by means of.” 1peter 21:2

This scriptural verse teaches all new child babes learn how to develop and increase in Christ.
The very first thing the scripture requested the brand new born within the Lord to do is to put apart the followings:
All malice
All guides
Hypocrisies, Envies
All evil talking
Now Ephesians 4:22-24 put it this manner ,”that ye get rid of regarding the former dialog the previous guy, which is corrupt in keeping with the deceitful lusts and be renewed within the spirit of your thoughts.

And that ye put at the new guy who after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
The questions listed below are:
Who is that this previous guy?
What does it imply to be renewed within the spirit thoughts?
And who is that this new guy?
Listed below are the Solutions
The previous guy is just the spirit and nature of devil the satan that we inherited after the autumn.
To be renewed within the spirit thoughts is to be renewed within the perspective of our thoughts ,this we do by means of renouncing the self-love of the thoughts. It is darkness and blindness Ephesians 4;17-18
The brand new guy is the spirit and nature of God within the renewed new guy. 2Peter1:14, Romans 8:9, 14-16
How are we able to be capable to do all of those?
The solution is:
Through finding out of Christ Ephesian 4:20-21

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THE WORD” BELIEVE”AS DEFINED IN THE BIBLE

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In keeping with the Bible, the phrase consider denotes the “Act and Procedure” of Religion.
Imagine is the existing stressful of the Greek phrase “PISTIS” translated as Religion.
Now the Greek phrase “PISTEUO” or “PISTIS” way the next:
To be absolutely persuaded; Romans 4:17-22.
To think about; Ephesians 3:12, Hebrews 3:6.
Conviction of items was hoping for, and the peace of mind of items now not noticed; Hebrews 10:19-38.
Absolute dependence and reliance in God’s phrase; Matthew 8:8-10, Romans 10:17.
Complete give up, yieldedness, and obedience to all identified truths. Romans 1:5, Romans 16:26, James 2:14-26.
Believe wholly and unreservedly within the faithfulness of God; Matthew 6:25-34, Matthew 12:21, Luke 12:28-31, Ephesians 1:13.
Remember the fact that, “Imagine” like I stated,is THE PRESENT TENSE OF FAITH, AND MUST BE CONTINUOUSLY INDULGED IN ORDER TO GETS IT’S BENEFITS.
It way the place you prevent believing, there your growth additionally stops.
Acts 14:22, says,“Confirming the souls of the disciples and exhorting them to proceed within the religion”.
Ephesians 6:16, “Above all, taking the defend of religion, wherewith ye shall be capable of quench the entire fiery darts of the depraved”.
Colossians 1:23, “If ye proceed within the religion grounded and settled, and be now not moved clear of the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which used to be preached to each creature which is below heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister”.
Colossians 2:5, 7, “For even though I be absent within the flesh, but am I with you within the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the steadfastness of your religion in Christ.
7 Rooted and building up in him, and established within the religion, as ye had been taught abounding there with thanksgiving”.

1st Thessalonians 5:8, “However allow us to, who’re of the day, be sober, placing at the breast plate of religion and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.”
1st Timothy 2:15, “However she will likely be stored in childbearing. In the event that they proceed in religion and charity and holiness with sobriety”.
1st Timothy 3:9, “Preserving the thriller of the religion in a natural sense of right and wrong”.
Pricey reader, a person who’s absolutely persuaded “Acts” In his conviction and self belief in God, and His guarantees. His self belief in God compels him to move in the course of the processes of religion, and as he continues in it, he will get the advantages of Religion movements.
You’ll see this it appears that evidently within the lives of Bible religion males; Genesis 12, Genesis 13, Genesis 22, Genesis 26.

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GOD’S MORAL ATTRIBUTES

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God is Holy. Exodus 15:11, the phrase Holy approach ‘separated’. He’s separated from in two tactics.

(1) In house: He’s in heaven, guy is on earth.

(2)In Nature and Persona: He’s best possible whilst guy is imperfect. He’s Divine and guy is human.
God is righteous: Gen. 18:25 righteousness is holiness in motion. Righteousness is the BEING AND THE DOING OF GOD. Lev 11:44 – 45, Playstation 85:13.
He’s holy, separated from sin and hates sin, completely natural Lev. 19:2, Isaiah 6:3.

He’s devoted (2 Timothy 2:13). He’s completely faithful. Maintaining His guarantees, He by no means fails.
God is simply, honest, and unbiased,fact is the basis of His Righteousness; Deuteronomy 32:4.

God is merciful, Psalms 103: 8 -18. The mercies of God is what provides the sons of guys a floor of hope. He does now not handiest feels for us, He makes provision for our aid.

God is excellent (Psalms 145:9) He imparts lifestyles and different blessings to all His creatures.
God is compassionate, Psalms 145:8, Exodus 34: 6-7 – to be compassionate is to really feel sorrow for any individual else’s sorrow, with a need to assist. Out of his compassion for humanity, He equipped forgiveness and salvation, Psalms 78:38, Jesus additionally confirmed compassion for the crowds when he preached. Luke 4:18, Matthew 9:36.

God is gracious, appearing underserved kindness and forgiveness to the sick deserving. Ex. 22:27, Playstation 145:8, 1 Peter 2:3 Playstation 103:10
God is love (John 3:16, 1 John 4:8. His love is selfless – Love that embraces all the worlds of sinful human sort. Rom 5:8

Pricey reader, the extra we be told of God’s attributes (nature and persona) the easier we can know Him and perceive His Will and we can have a greater dating with Him.

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